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Jared Leto shows off his ripped shirtless body on the cover of Rolling Stone.

Here’s what the 44-year-old Suicide Squad star had to share with the mag:

On pursuing music as an actor: “There were so many people that didn’t understand. There were people in this town who thought it was insane. There were films that I decided not to do because I had tiny little tours, and people would just lose their minds. And some of them turned into the biggest movies ever made.”

On playing The Joker: “The Joker is incredibly comfortable with acts of violence. I was watching real violence, consuming that. There’s a lot you can learn from seeing it. Not every act of violence is committed with frenzy, either. I remember learning that. People can be calm. They’ve made their choice and go and do something, and it’s not in a frenzy. It’s methodical and sometimes even hypnotic and deliberate.”

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